JREB.ORG

Modelers Layout => Discussion => Topic started by: Badhorse79 on March 17, 2014, 08:47:40 PM

Title: project humpback NS C39-8 8567
Post by: Badhorse79 on March 17, 2014, 08:47:40 PM
Big project going on here ...

Using a railpower C32-8 shell with the atlas D8-40C ! heavily modified trucks and a D8-40B fuel tank tons of parts ordered from 3 different places ! Shell will be getting see through dynamic break grills with "blower motors" visible "X" panels plus many other mods .... more to come





(http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj97/badhorse79/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-03/20140317_175749_zpsbbep8abn.jpg) (http://s270.photobucket.com/user/badhorse79/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-03/20140317_175749_zpsbbep8abn.jpg.html)

(http://i1329.photobucket.com/albums/w559/Rowland_Smith/Mobile%20Uploads/20140317_175737_zps3e6f54e3.jpg) (http://s1329.photobucket.com/user/Rowland_Smith/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140317_175737_zps3e6f54e3.jpg.html)

Title: Re: project humpback NS C39-8 8567
Post by: SOU91 on March 18, 2014, 12:33:35 PM
Seeing this big GE makes me want to dig out my dad's back issue of Railroad Model Craftsman from when Ed Ryan built one.

Its not really my era but I like them.
Title: Re: project humpback NS C39-8 8567
Post by: Badhorse79 on March 18, 2014, 01:42:03 PM
Yeah I want a new copy of them 2 issues I wore the pages out in the old ones
Title: Re: project humpback NS C39-8 8567
Post by: SOU91 on March 18, 2014, 03:24:59 PM
Quote from: Badhorse79 on March 18, 2014, 01:42:03 PM
Yeah I want a new copy of them 2 issues I wore the pages out in the old ones

If I remember correctly Carstens still has a few copies of each. I need to get a copy of each as mine are falling apart.
Title: Re: project humpback NS C39-8 8567
Post by: NSMoWandS on March 18, 2014, 04:58:03 PM
And... I just found this...

http://www.shapeways.com/model/1649103/ge-c39-8-ho-1-87-scale.html

It is based on a Conrail ordered unit with 2 vents... where NS ordered units had 3 vents.
DE Dan
Title: Re: project humpback NS C39-8 8567
Post by: NSDash9 on March 18, 2014, 07:25:05 PM
Quote from: NSMoWandS on March 18, 2014, 04:58:03 PM

It is based on a Conrail ordered unit with 2 vents... where NS ordered units had 3 vents.


NS 8550-8563 also had two vents.  NS 8564-8663 had three vents.


Chris
Title: Re: project humpback NS C39-8 8567
Post by: Badhorse79 on March 18, 2014, 07:33:10 PM
Correct me if im wrong isn't 8550 and 8551 "Demo" models with C32-8 carbodies ? Dan sharpways stuff I hear is brittle stuff lol ! Sou91 im gonna go see what they have left ;-)
Title: Re: project humpback NS C39-8 8567
Post by: NSMoWandS on March 18, 2014, 07:52:47 PM
Chris... Thanks. Did not know NS had a couple with two vents. BH... That's why it is expensive... seems they had to make a thicker shell/pieces after a couple test prints. DE Dan
Title: Re: project humpback NS C39-8 8567
Post by: NSDash9 on March 19, 2014, 12:51:44 AM
Quote from: Badhorse79 on March 18, 2014, 07:33:10 PM
Correct me if im wrong isn't 8550 and 8551 "Demo" models with C32-8 carbodies ?

No, the C39-8's were all longer than the C32-8. The 3200 horsepower C32-8 was powered by a 12-cylinder engine, while the 3900 horsepower C39-8 was powered by a 16-cylinder engine. Because of the different engine sizes, the C39-8 was longer than the C32-8. The C39-8 had an overall length of 70' 8" between coupler faces and a length of 43' 4" between the truck center axles, while the C32-8 had an overall length of 67' 11" and a length of 40' 7" between truck center axles. Externally, this difference in length could be seen in the engine compartment and in the fuel tank. The C39-8 had eight engine compartment doors per side and was equipped with a 4500 gallon fuel tank, while the C32-8 had six engine compartment doors per side and was equipped with a 4000 gallon fuel tank.


Chris
Title: Re: project humpback NS C39-8 8567
Post by: Badhorse79 on March 19, 2014, 07:32:29 AM
Touche
Title: Re: project humpback NS C39-8 8567
Post by: Badhorse79 on March 19, 2014, 07:44:47 AM
I was looking over some prototype pics and noticed the framing for the steps compared to the model was gonna need some attention !!! The 1st pic shows the area being flat . ... 2nd pic shows the modifications made to said area ! 3rd pic is the pilot area .... had to sand down the ends because the thickness of the pilot was to thick and added the correct top step to the deck (left) the right is factory

More to come







(http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj97/badhorse79/Mobile%20Uploads/20140319_000813_zpsvtxclgp1.jpg) (http://s270.photobucket.com/user/badhorse79/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140319_000813_zpsvtxclgp1.jpg.html)URL=http://s270.photobucket.com/user/badhorse79/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140319_000912_zpsrrkkhljb.jpg.html](http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj97/badhorse79/Mobile%20Uploads/20140319_000912_zpsrrkkhljb.jpg)[/URL]URL=http://s270.photobucket.com/user/badhorse79/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140319_000948_zps6uiy4xf9.jpg.html](http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj97/badhorse79/Mobile%20Uploads/20140319_000948_zps6uiy4xf9.jpg)[/URL]

Title: Re: project humpback NS C39-8 8567
Post by: Badhorse79 on March 19, 2014, 07:45:38 AM
Ok the pics are reversed sorry  :P
Title: Re: project humpback NS C39-8 8567
Post by: fireball451 on March 19, 2014, 11:39:21 AM
Though I hate to see and hear GE's, I really liked the hump backs.
Miss seeing them around.
Glad to see one will be "back in service"!
Title: Re: project humpback NS C39-8 8567
Post by: Michael Knight on March 20, 2014, 10:44:52 PM
Badhorse, does that shell have some yellow paint brushed on the inside of it and crude scribe marks on the nose panels to simulate carbody "X" panels?

Good to see you modeling and posting, btw!
Title: Re: project humpback NS C39-8 8567
Post by: Badhorse79 on March 21, 2014, 09:29:55 AM
Good to be back !!! No yellow paint nor X panels on the nose bought this thing back in the 90s still in the railpower box until 2 years ago when I wanted to paint it up for the DM &L
Title: Re: project humpback NS C39-8 8567
Post by: Badhorse79 on March 24, 2014, 03:22:17 PM
Did a lil bit of work on the cab ! The railpower C32-8 cab has square winders so I used an atlas 30-7 and chopped up the roof to make it sit lower



(http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj97/badhorse79/Mobile%20Uploads/20140321_220841_zpskvgmwed7.jpg)[/URL[URL=http://s270.photobucket.com/user/badhorse79/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140321_221223_zpsxzetdd4r.jpg.html](http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj97/badhorse79/Mobile%20Uploads/20140321_221223_zpsxzetdd4r.jpg)[/URL[URL=http://s270.photobucket.com/user/badhorse79/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140321_222435_zpss4wmq4op.jpg.html](http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj97/badhorse79/Mobile%20Uploads/20140321_222435_zpss4wmq4op.jpg)[/URL[URL=http://s270.photobucket.com/user/badhorse79/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140322_094110_zpsglldnqtk.jpg.html](http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj97/badhorse79/Mobile%20Uploads/20140322_094110_zpsglldnqtk.jpg) (http://s270.photobucket.com/user/badhorse79/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140321_220841_zpskvgmwed7.jpg.html)
Title: Re: project humpback NS C39-8 8567
Post by: NSMoWandS on March 25, 2014, 02:52:53 PM
Nice! DE Dan
Title: Re: project humpback NS C39-8 8567
Post by: thpbears on March 25, 2014, 04:19:30 PM
Coming right along.
Title: Re: project humpback NS C39-8 8567
Post by: Badhorse79 on March 25, 2014, 05:51:53 PM
Thanks Dan and bears its git a loooong way to go lol

Here's a lil tank details




(http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj97/badhorse79/Mobile%20Uploads/20140324_235105_zpsrdj3evxd.jpg) (http://s270.photobucket.com/user/badhorse79/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140324_235105_zpsrdj3evxd.jpg.html)URL=http://s270.photobucket.com/user/badhorse79/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20140325_165729_zps1pgv47c9.jpg.html](http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj97/badhorse79/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20140325_165729_zps1pgv47c9.jpg)[/URL]
Title: Re: project humpback NS C39-8 8567
Post by: Badhorse79 on March 28, 2014, 11:56:43 PM
Got the thing looking more like a locomotive tonight ! Still a long way to go


(http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj97/badhorse79/Mobile%20Uploads/20140328_231444_zpszlo02vdp.jpg) (http://s270.photobucket.com/user/badhorse79/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140328_231444_zpszlo02vdp.jpg.html)
Title: Re: project humpback NS C39-8 8567
Post by: SOU91 on March 29, 2014, 02:37:35 PM
Coming along nicely Badhorse, can't wait to see it finished.
Title: Re: project humpback NS C39-8 8567
Post by: Badhorse79 on March 29, 2014, 10:36:10 PM
Thank ya !
Title: Re: project humpback NS C39-8 8567
Post by: NSMoWandS on March 31, 2014, 02:27:38 PM
Nice work so far! Have fun filling in the seams! LMAO!!! It was oh so much fun on my Southern GP59. However, I did learn that if you use putty... and let it dry for about six hours... the back of an x-acto blade allows one to etch in seams and door detail if needed. Keep up the great work! DE Dan
Title: Re: project humpback NS C39-8 8567
Post by: Badhorse79 on April 01, 2014, 11:14:11 AM
Thanks dan ! The seems aren't to shabby i think im gonna be ok lol .... I think
Title: Re: project humpback NS C39-8 8567
Post by: NSMoWandS on April 01, 2014, 11:25:12 AM
LOL! I wasn't "raggin" on your seams... but, filling in where the hoods meet the walkways was very time consuming... and nerve racking!!! I was using a small plastic dowel and very tiny amounts of putty. Let dry... sand... a little more putty...let dry... sand...etc. LOL! DE Dan
Title: Re: project humpback NS C39-8 8567
Post by: Badhorse79 on April 01, 2014, 11:42:04 AM
 So after grinding the frame down I broke so I rigged something up so far so good



(http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj97/badhorse79/Mobile%20Uploads/20140329_130319_zpsa5n7phs9.jpg)[/URL[URL=http://s270.photobucket.com/user/badhorse79/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140331_201914_zpsm1e4wkqr.jpg.html](http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj97/badhorse79/Mobile%20Uploads/20140331_201914_zpsm1e4wkqr.jpg) (http://s270.photobucket.com/user/badhorse79/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140329_130319_zpsa5n7phs9.jpg.html)
Title: Re: project humpback NS C39-8 8567
Post by: Badhorse79 on April 02, 2014, 07:59:34 PM
Ah no worries dan I knew what ya meant  ;D
Title: Re: project humpback NS C39-8 8567
Post by: NSMoWandS on April 04, 2014, 02:06:47 PM
BH... if you need an extra frame... let me know. I have an athearn BB U30C frame that was going to be used for my C30-7...but, that shell was cut apart for my B36-7 project. DE Dan
Title: Re: project humpback NS C39-8 8567
Post by: Badhorse79 on April 04, 2014, 03:02:25 PM
I appreciate it but the extra hood doors bumped up the length so I need an -8 frame ... its holing up pretty good so far
Title: Re: project humpback NS C39-8 8567
Post by: Badhorse79 on April 15, 2014, 11:34:08 PM
Worked on modifying the sideframes some ! Had to use the old athearn U33C sidefames for this gal as I can't seem to find a good match ? So I bought details associates #2804 Hyatt roller bearings and this was the results ( used some brass wire to simulate the bolt heads ) 

(http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj97/badhorse79/Mobile%20Uploads/20140401_004628_zpsrjoz5aq3.jpg) (http://s270.photobucket.com/user/badhorse79/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140401_004628_zpsrjoz5aq3.jpg.html)


8567 has exposed roller bearing on the lead axle so I dug out some details west bearing caps and filed down the factory journal to represent the new housing 



(http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj97/badhorse79/Mobile%20Uploads/20140414_205558_zpsmjbpp0po.jpg) (http://s270.photobucket.com/user/badhorse79/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140414_205558_zpsmjbpp0po.jpg.html)


Here is a "before and after shot of the frames major improvement if I must say 



(http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj97/badhorse79/Mobile%20Uploads/20140414_205638_zpshpxbx2pj.jpg) (http://s270.photobucket.com/user/badhorse79/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140414_205638_zpshpxbx2pj.jpg.html)
up next The front plow !!!! 
Thanks for following along hope your enjoying it as much as I am :-) 

Eric 

Title: Re: project humpback NS C39-8 8567
Post by: NSMoWandS on April 16, 2014, 01:31:04 PM
Nice job! I have a C44-9W(Actually is it a C44-8W with upgraded prime mover/split cooling system but with Dash-8 GSC trucks). I used Athearn GSC trucks from an old U33C. However, I did not modify the trucks. If I ever do... I will be using this as a reference. DE Dan
Title: Re: project humpback NS C39-8 8567
Post by: Badhorse79 on April 16, 2014, 10:56:39 PM
Thanks Dan  ! This is the first loco im actually paying attention to most details my resources are limited so im learning as I go :-D

Heres the front plow I used a details west #235 plow
Added the dents and dings also
(http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj97/badhorse79/Mobile%20Uploads/20140412_192414_zpsq0rrhh1w.jpg) (http://"http://s270.photobucket.com/user/badhorse79/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140412_192414_zpsq0rrhh1w.jpg.html")


Also tried to make the buffer plate coupler pocket this ones thanks to Tony Sessions not nearly as good as his but its a start ;-)


(http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj97/badhorse79/Mobile%20Uploads/20140414_210309_zpsagru1w6j.jpg) (http://"http://s270.photobucket.com/user/badhorse79/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140414_210309_zpsagru1w6j.jpg.html")

Ill keep em coming

Eric
Title: Re: project humpback NS C39-8 8567
Post by: NSMoWandS on April 19, 2014, 05:23:15 PM
Nice! I usually just take the plow outside and "chuck it" down the circle to create some "damage" LOL!
DE Dan
Title: Re: project humpback NS C39-8 8567
Post by: Badhorse79 on April 19, 2014, 06:57:12 PM
 :D .... that must look real strange to the neighbors
Title: Re: project humpback NS C39-8 8567
Post by: NSMoWandS on April 20, 2014, 02:56:17 PM
Quote from: Badhorse79 on April 19, 2014, 06:57:12 PM
:D .... that must look real strange to the neighbors

Not really... the whole circle is nothing but weirdos...LOL! DE Dan
Title: Re: project humpback NS C39-8 8567
Post by: Badhorse79 on June 18, 2014, 09:29:56 AM
Decided to get some brass sheets and see what I could do for the X panels! I think I came out ok ?

(http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj97/badhorse79/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-06/Camera%20HDR%20Studio%20-%201402964751036_zpsusuy0ikc.jpg) (http://s270.photobucket.com/user/badhorse79/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-06/Camera%20HDR%20Studio%20-%201402964751036_zpsusuy0ikc.jpg.html)
Title: Re: project humpback NS C39-8 8567
Post by: NSMoWandS on June 18, 2014, 09:58:33 PM
Nice! Are the panel already made... or did you make them yourself? DE Dan
Title: Re: project humpback NS C39-8 8567
Post by: Badhorse79 on June 18, 2014, 10:22:26 PM
Thank ya Dan ! Made em myself .... measured them out then scored an X on the back bent the lines in along the scores and it added the popped effect then I took the tip of the xacto and barely pressed down to make the rivets!
Title: Re: project humpback NS C39-8 8567
Post by: NSMoWandS on June 21, 2014, 08:56:35 PM
Sweet! For soft metals like brass. Try a graphite pencil for small rivet details. If you use a soft graphite pencil (5H to 9H in artist pencils) the graphite will break and crumble before the metal gets too distorted. My HS art teacher would be so proud! LOL! DE Dan
Title: Re: project humpback NS C39-8 8567
Post by: Badhorse79 on June 21, 2014, 11:40:06 PM
Lol I shoulda payed more attention art class !!!
Heres a few pics of the auxiliary cab that houses the dynamic breaks that I started today .... still as a lot left to go on it but im happy with the results ! The gray and black vents or from donor shells the rest is scratch built also the motors are detail associates EMD F unit fans cut to fit in the slots!



(http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj97/badhorse79/Mobile%20Uploads/20140621_144836_HDR_zpsyawo2uye.jpg) (http://s270.photobucket.com/user/badhorse79/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140621_144836_HDR_zpsyawo2uye.jpg.html)

(http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj97/badhorse79/Mobile%20Uploads/20140621_154723_HDR_zps2pds7s2v.jpg) (http://s270.photobucket.com/user/badhorse79/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140621_154723_HDR_zps2pds7s2v.jpg.html)

(http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj97/badhorse79/Mobile%20Uploads/20140621_154749_HDR_zps6nvmwqpc.jpg) (http://s270.photobucket.com/user/badhorse79/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140621_154749_HDR_zps6nvmwqpc.jpg.html)

(http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj97/badhorse79/Mobile%20Uploads/20140621_190324_HDR_zpsmis1qgbg.jpg) (http://s270.photobucket.com/user/badhorse79/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140621_190324_HDR_zpsmis1qgbg.jpg.html)

(http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj97/badhorse79/Mobile%20Uploads/20140621_190338_HDR_zpsaulhihtl.jpg) (http://s270.photobucket.com/user/badhorse79/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140621_190338_HDR_zpsaulhihtl.jpg.html)

(http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj97/badhorse79/Mobile%20Uploads/20140621_222214_HDR_zpszmvwi1nk.jpg) (http://s270.photobucket.com/user/badhorse79/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140621_222214_HDR_zpszmvwi1nk.jpg.html)

(http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj97/badhorse79/Mobile%20Uploads/20140621_222245_HDR_zps9uefryfz.jpg) (http://s270.photobucket.com/user/badhorse79/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140621_222245_HDR_zps9uefryfz.jpg.html)

(http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj97/badhorse79/Mobile%20Uploads/20140621_225132_HDR_zpsbvnuvfgq.jpg) (http://s270.photobucket.com/user/badhorse79/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140621_225132_HDR_zpsbvnuvfgq.jpg.html)

(http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj97/badhorse79/Mobile%20Uploads/20140621_225307_HDR_zpsgpglv0qe.jpg) (http://s270.photobucket.com/user/badhorse79/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140621_225307_HDR_zpsgpglv0qe.jpg.html)

Title: Re: project humpback NS C39-8 8567
Post by: SOU91 on June 23, 2014, 11:22:42 AM
Looks great, the C39-8 is one of my favorite "modern" locomotives. Imagine what it would look like with a high hood.  ;)